Myrl Jeffcoat wisgroup_leader@yahoo.com

Hi All -

I am forwarding the following message from Sandra Laliberte, regarding blog comments from a Dr. Rob Oliver. Perhaps some of you would like to join Sandra in responding and "enlightening" Dr. Oliver.

I have left Sandra's email address in the message, for direct contact with her.

Hope you are all well!

Myrl Jeffcoat

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From: Sandra laliberte <s_laliberte_2001@yahoo.com>

Subject: please forward if you want and see if other women want to respond to him.

This is what a Doctor Rob Oliver posted to me on a site anyone wishing to add there comments the site address is below.

One thing interesting in his comment to me is his blatant lie that tens of thousands of women have been studied for MS and other diseases that is so incorrect. Of course he failed to mention which studies he was referring to I would and can only assume he is referring to the flawed mayo, harvard and other manufacturer funded studies. You know he says I am active in the silicone debate so he is calling me an activist and as my dad pointed out last night to me he is an activist for the implant manufacturers. He said, "Sandra, plastic surgeons like him are like used car salesmen." My dad has a point.

Dr. Rob Oliver said...

Unlike what is suggested Sandra Laliberte in her comment, there is a great deal science on this as has been discussed her on Plastic Surgery 101. FYI, Ms. Laliberte is a Canadian citizen active in the silicone implant debate who has been making the claim for years of a link between her implants and the development of multiple sclerosis (MS). While it's impossible to prove a negative, we know from studies of tens of thousands of patients that there is no increase in the rates of MS or other diseases compared to their peers without implants. There is no smoking gun. There is no conspriacy of silence by the Medical-Industrial complex. All the allegations of corporate misconduct have been considered any number of times by reviewers and they have now 100% of the time found this to be lacking upon summary judgement.

Sandra said...

This is for Dr. Rob Oliver. Concerning your remarks about me and my trying to prove a link I know there is a link.There is the bought and paid for studies that show no link I don't consider those to be credible though.

I will tell you what, how about the plastic surgeons in Canada and the united states get ahold of the claims centre for the dow corning settlement and ask them to release the amount of women in each categorie and since we are on the subject of MS how about you ask about that categorie first. I have said for years that the data sitting at the claims centre is
probably the biggest study ever on implanted women. I know for a fact there is alot of women with MS that have a claim filed and one thing with this claims centre is you need medical proof from tests, specialists, etc so it is not an easy claim to get approved. None of them are easy actually you almost have to be a Level 4 nursing home invalid to get
approved for the A payment which is a pitiful amount but then again this is not about the money, money will never bring my health back to where it was, but it was all about the money when the MS categorie was negotiated so low and I will tell you why, it was because of the huge amount of women who have MS Dow knew it and knew it from there own studies, and you know the documents they had the courts seal.

I expect your kind of response because this is a great thing for plastic surgeons. I have nothing against plastic surgeons I just lost respect for many in the profession who decided to take this specialty and make it all about breasts and making women feel like they aren't women without plastic surgery. I do wonder though why so many of you Doctors hang on the tainted studies by the mayo, harvard, and other studies that have been proven without any doubt to of been flawed. I would think as a medical person you would be more interested in the health and well being of your patients and would want to know the truth.

There is by the way a smoking gun and many of us has read the documents dow tried to hide as did surgiteck at leastthe ones that weren't sealed and if you would like copies of them I would be happy to forward them to you.

Oh there was a conpiracy and that is why Dow is now paying. I would of preferred criminal charges though. I will only believe the new ones are safe when plastic surgeons in writing to all there patients will agree they are safe, but whats the chances of that happening!!!

What do you think the chances are of Inamed or Mentor doing the same?

NONE!!! You must of looked me up to see who I was I see you needed to explain who I was so you labelled me as an activist as if it is a bad thing.

I am a woman who has been severely harmed by these medical devices and had 19 operations and still very deformed and mutilated looking so if that classes me as an activist great.

Sandra Laliberte

Also here is Dr. Rob Olivers profile.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/09059882318849767896